She's not pretty but she's pretty fast

[Cornercarver82]

Heres my 82 Z I'm waiting till this winter to get some paint dropped on her I wanted to drive it for a season finally

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My%20Rides/My82.jpg

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My%20Rides/Camaro82085.jpg

Make of Vehicle?
Chevrolet

Model of Vehicle?
Camaro Z-28

Modifications?
350 V-8 Bored .40 over<br />
Steel Crank, H beam Rods, Cast JE Domed Pistons<br />
Lunati Voodoo Cam .632 lift .238 Duration<br />
Hooker Headers<br />
Edelbrock performer RPM Intake<br />
Holley 800CFM Double Pumper Carb<br />
Centerforce Gold Series Dual Friction Clutch<br />
Hurst Short Shifter<br />
Richmond 3.73 Posi Rear<br />
Dual 3" Flowmaster Exhaust

[Token]

Welcome to the site!

[Cornercarver82]

Thanks Token and I know everyone loves racing videos so heres me in the Z at the drag strip against a WRX STI poor kid didnt stand a chance

MySpaceTV Videos: Joe at the drag strip by RAWR

[eman]

What does it run in the 1/4?

[T_Glass_27]

welcome!

[Cornercarver82]

I was hitting high 13's low 12's that day. the track sucked it wasnt street tire friendly at all even all the Subi's there were having traction problems and their all wheel drive, I'm going to hit up Oswego motorpark next time I heard from the import guys the track is much much better prepared and hopefully the humidity will be lower too:hsdance:

[Breech]

she may not look like much but shell make .5 past lightspeed, I've done a couple of special modifications myself..



nice car haha and welcome to the site

[Pantera996]

she may not look like much but shell make .5 past lightspeed, I've done a couple of special modifications myself..

Dang it, I wanted to say that! :-)

Don't worry, this isn't FerrariChat...we love people that love cars. Period. Welcome to Mischief!

R.

[1faSStchevy]

Geez thats a big cam! I bet it wakes up the neighbors. Does it still have the stock 7.625" rearend? I've built mine about as badass as it could get and I'm told it will only handle 400 to the rear.

[tsrrun]

Good American Muscle welcome to the site

[Cornercarver82]

Next will be my 01 Banks Tuned Duramax, I'm pretty confident she'll beat my Z's times

[Cornercarver82]

Ok so I sourced a new clutch fork pushrod and swivel from a guy in Canada but now I get to be really pissed, I had surgery on my left knee so now I cant push in the clutch DAMN IT:madfawk:

[Cornercarver82]

So I got my clutch pieces in and immediatly started to install them, however when I went to get the garage keys out of the 2500HD I noticed small black puddles under the from of my truck I dipped my fingers in and it's oil mixed with fuel. So long story short Camaro goes back on the road finally and the truck goes to the dealership for an injector recall

[Cornercarver82]

Heres a video of the new Cam same lift slightly lower duration for street friendliness. Still lopes pretty good though :dancingco

http://s427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My%20Rides/?action=view&current=MOV00433.flv (http://s427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My&#37;20Rides/?action=view&current=MOV00433.flv)

Turn your speakers up waaaaaay up!

[Cornercarver82]

Heres the new toys for the Z.

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My&#37;20Rides/Camarosnewengine.jpg


http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My%20Rides/CamarTrans.jpg

[8speed]

Thanks Token and I know everyone loves racing videos so heres me in the Z at the drag strip against a WRX STI poor kid didnt stand a chance

MySpaceTV Videos: Joe at the drag strip by RAWR (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=42113720)

I've got a little Yamaha/skunk built 5.0 V8 for yeah.....not some juiced up Suby:thumb:

Love the muscle!

[Cornercarver82]

785 Hp 760lb ft of torque and 540 Lingenfelter built aluminum cubic inches witha Jerico 6 speed +1 gear box,uuuh yeah a little more than a "juiced" up 5.0's class

[8speed]

Yeah, but you are only running "high 13's low 12's" (whatever the f*ck that means)? I'm running low 12's bone stock on street tires with two sets of golf clubs in my truck:gives:

http://91.121.132.199/gifs/972.gif

[Cornercarver82]

Uuuum the 540 isnt in the car yet, it just got finished, if you'd look at my sig you'd see I just have a little 385 Stroker with a Holley Carb. and I have since dipped into the 11's. Also FYI carbureted engines dont like humidity, if it's hot and humid your 1/4 miles will gain some time

[Nexus]

Pretty nice car!

[Crash-Override]

Wow, 8spd whats with all the ball busting..... Its not like the IS-F is the end all / be all with cars, very far from it honestly.

Also why you are giving him a hard time about posting "high 12s low 13s" and then the NEXT sentence you give your time like its a bracket racer. I highly doubt you can run an exact time, every time you fun the 1/4.

Just curious?


Camaro82 -- Im glad you took my advice on the BB!! I knew you would see the light.

[AWD ATTK]

My GFs dad road races a 96 Camaro with a 350 in it. Although I'm an import driver, I absolutely love the sound of it, best of luck with the beast!!



Wow, 8spd whats with all the ball busting..... Its not like the IS-F is the end all / be all with cars, very far from it honestly.

How dare you! It's got 20&#37; tint!

[Crash-Override]

How dare you! It's got 20% tint!

[ohmy]



[paranoid]



:hahano:




:nonono2:

[8speed]

Wow, 8spd whats with all the ball busting..... Its not like the IS-F is the end all / be all with cars, very far from it honestly.

Also why you are giving him a hard time about posting "high 12s low 13s" and then the NEXT sentence you give your time like its a bracket racer. I highly doubt you can run an exact time, every time you fun the 1/4.

Just curious?


Camaro82 -- Im glad you took my advice on the BB!! I knew you would see the light.


It's ok.....we have an understanding. You guys need anything from McDonald's?

http://91.121.132.199/gifs/278.gif

[8speed]

My GFs dad road races a 96 Camaro with a 350 in it. Although I'm an import driver, I absolutely love the sound of it, best of luck with the beast!!




How dare you! It's got 20% tint!


It's ok, I'm a limo driver!


http://91.121.132.199/gifs/9274.gif

[Cornercarver82]

Thanx AWD, I'll be sure to include a sound clip and vid once I get the big block stuffed in it and tuned right

[Cornercarver82]

My end result with the Z will somewhat resemble this

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My%20Rides/91Z.jpg

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My%20Rides/91Z2.jpg

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/My%20Rides/91Zbrakes.jpg

[Pantera996]

Mmmmmmmmmm, shiny! I like.

R.

[8speed]

you got some work to do son:smokin:

[hyprspec]

Yeah, but you are only running "high 13's low 12's" (whatever the f*ck that means)? I'm running low 12's bone stock on street tires with two sets of golf clubs in my truck:gives:

http://91.121.132.199/gifs/972.gif

http://my.is/forums/f136/3-22-08-lexus-isf-1-4-mi-12-89-a-356671/

http://www.hypertuned.net/vehicle-2008-Lexus-ISF.htm

These are two links of the many available showing the stock ISF does not run "low 12's" in stock trim.

I'm sure you have proof that you run "low 12's". I don't know about you but I consider anything 12.4 and under to be "low".

I'm curious as to how you achieve "low" 12 when other people are struggling to get 12.7 and higher. Forums link - guy states he finally got 12.7 and took a few Bs items out(tools and spare like thats really gonna help him). Yet here you are saying "low 12" with golf clubs.

Whats up?

[Crash-Override]

http://my.is/forums/f136/3-22-08-lexus-isf-1-4-mi-12-89-a-356671/

http://www.hypertuned.net/vehicle-2008-Lexus-ISF.htm

These are two links of the many available showing the stock ISF does not run "low 12's" in stock trim.

I'm sure you have proof that you run "low 12's". I don't know about you but I consider anything 12.4 and under to be "low".

I'm curious as to how you achieve "low" 12 when other people are struggling to get 12.7 and higher. Forums link - guy states he finally got 12.7 and took a few Bs items out(tools and spare like thats really gonna help him). Yet here you are saying "low 12" with golf clubs.

Whats up?

Its like AWD said..

Hes got 20% tint!

[8speed]

http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php?carmodel=1414&op1=%3E%3D&data1=&search2=et&op2=%3C%3D&data2=&days=10000000&carmake=27&name=Search+DragTimes

Maybe this will help.........what was that you said, 12.4 and below?

http://91.121.132.199/gifs/8028.gif

[8speed]

couple of my favs:thumb:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dha7g-xOIGU&feature=related

this guy isn't even hooking and a mediocre 60ft and is hitting 12.5's all day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm2VPRBH-Xs&feature=related



The RS4 has broken 13 seconds consistantly stock and the IS-F has two car lengths (at least)......not to mention it's the only car in its class to go over 170 mph (155 limited for M3, RS4, C63). Do your research before you start flaming:wackit:

[Dave.W]

Why you posting vids of cars like yours in someone elses car thread?

[hyprspec]

? Neither one of your post hardly proves anything. Two people have posted a time of 12.4, only two. I'm sure there are few others out there. Oh and BTW which one of those two timeslips is actually yours...

The Audi Vid is hardly a drag race. Of course with a higher top speed the Lexus is gonna be in front of the Audi. I would expect nothing less of it

12.9 is breaking 13's. So what?

Wait? what was this thread about again?

[8speed]

I forgot......who cares anyway. My car is slow, it'a a four door golf cart! Why is it causing sooooo much drama in the LBC[offtopic]

[Cornercarver82]

Ok I cant hold it anymore 8speed you can put more negative rep on me if you want but your really pissing me off as well as many others. You just showed and started flaming people with rides you dont like. WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU DONT LIKE! There are many constructive ways to say you dont like something but you oh no. You have to be a dick and put everyone down. I couldn t care less about your ISF, you can say what you want and challenge anyone you want but in the end it's the internet, for all we know your sportin a Kia Sephia. And I also hate to tell you theres plenty of other machines on this site such as oh say a DeTomaso Pantera, one of the rarest cars in exhistance. Lots of Corvettes it's an American Icon. Volkswagens, very respectable cars in there own rights. So all these people put a lot time blood sweat and most of all PRIDE in what they drive and you put it all down. GO FUCK YOURSELF. And furthermore I havent seen one pic off this ISF or the Audi thing, just a pic of a retarded seaman trying to be billy bad ass in a once peaceful forum.

[8speed]

Ok I cant hold it anymore 8speed you can put more negative rep on me if you want but your really pissing me off as well as many others. You just showed and started flaming people with rides you dont like. WHO GIVES A SHIT WHAT YOU DONT LIKE! There are many constructive ways to say you dont like something but you oh no. You have to be a dick and put everyone down. I couldn t care less about your ISF, you can say what you want and challenge anyone you want but in the end it's the internet, for all we know your sportin a Kia Sephia. And I also hate to tell you theres plenty of other machines on this site such as oh say a DeTomaso Pantera, one of the rarest cars in exhistance. Lots of Corvettes it's an American Icon. Volkswagens, very respectable cars in there own rights. So all these people put a lot time blood sweat and most of all PRIDE in what they drive and you put it all down. GO FUCK YOURSELF. And furthermore I havent seen one pic off this ISF or the Audi thing, just a pic of a retarded seaman trying to be billy bad ass in a once peaceful forum.

Well said:thumb:

I'll be good

[AWD ATTK]

I think it's pretty funny that you, 8 speed said that your particular car runs low 12's bone stock on street tires with two sets of golf clubs in my truck. It doesn't. You claim that your car ran 2 hundredths of a second under 12.4. You linked us to a site that had a total of TWO ISF's running 12.4's.

When did this turn into a pissing contest?

[Cornercarver82]

I have no idea I just wanted to post the new toys for the Z, now it's gonna be really overpowered :dancingna

[AWD ATTK]

I have no idea I just wanted to post the new toys for the Z, now it's gonna be really overpowered :dancingna

With that setup running right, I'm sure it will shit on any ISF that comes along and rev's its fake exhaust at you.

[Cornercarver82]

Should or hopefully the Laser AWD Turbo I'm picking up in a few days will too

[l3it3r]

wait.. the M3 and C63 have limiters? Those mysterious speed barriers that never show up? I mean.. my SRT4 was 'limited' to 145MPH, but I know for a fact I've had it to 162...

Anyway, what Camaro said.. I can agree with after reading through this thread.

[AWD ATTK]

Should or hopefully the Laser AWD Turbo I'm picking up in a few days will too

oh word? DSM style! If you have any questions, let me know. I actually just washed and covered my Talon for the winter.

[Cornercarver82]

I may take you up on that I've been away from the 4G63 for a while but this will be the wifes fun car so it wont be too crazy, prolly a mild build and a trans/suspension upgrade.

[8speed]

I think it's pretty funny that you, 8 speed said that your particular car runs low 12's bone stock on street tires with two sets of golf clubs in my truck. It doesn't. You claim that your car ran 2 hundredths of a second under 12.4. You linked us to a site that had a total of TWO ISF's running 12.4's.

When did this turn into a pissing contest?

So you're saying that a car that ran a 12.4 isn't capable of running a 12.38?

Didn't a ZO6 break in the 10's stock with race slicks even though most passes were in the mid 11's?

There just isn't enough IS-F's running on the strip, since they only made 3,000 for the US market

[Cornercarver82]

Ok your comparing a totally different class of car and slicks make a huge difference and yes I know from experience, I've ran the 1320 for many years, I'm gonna take a stab at that ISF weighing oh 3500 to oh say 4000lbs, to break into low 12's you better have one hell of a well setup suspension and a lot of horses and torque to move it. low 12's isnt as easy as one might think

[AWD ATTK]

So you're saying that a car that ran a 12.4 isn't capable of running a 12.38?



Whatever I said, it seems like you're trying to attack Camaro82, by blowing up your own spot, and I'm not getting it.

Why did you bring up the fact that your car ran a low 12 with 2 golfbags in the trunk (which is highly unlikely, bone stock, on street tires) anyway? What was the reason behind it?

[8speed]

http://my.is/forums/f136/3-22-08-lexus-isf-1-4-mi-12-89-a-356671/

http://www.hypertuned.net/vehicle-2008-Lexus-ISF.htm

These are two links of the many available showing the stock ISF does not run "low 12's" in stock trim.

I'm sure you have proof that you run "low 12's". I don't know about you but I consider anything 12.4 and under to be "low".

I'm curious as to how you achieve "low" 12 when other people are struggling to get 12.7 and higher. Forums link - guy states he finally got 12.7 and took a few Bs items out(tools and spare like thats really gonna help him). Yet here you are saying "low 12" with golf clubs.

Whats up?


Me and camero are cool man...no beef at all so you're reading into that. I was defending my time to this guy who said a 12.7 was the best he has seen. Then I posted slips of 12.4 from dragslips. The golf club thing was a joke........I was running empty trunk, 94ish octane in san diego before I came out to Virginia. I'm not the only one to break 12.4 either.....couple guys from lexusclub have done it. And the reason there is only a couple has nothing to do with the car not being able, but the lack of people going to the strip. Lexus owners aren't usually the race loving type. I'm raising the white flag, why this is turning into a pissing match is beyond me and not my intention. I harbor no hard feelings at all towards anyone....I am just tired of defending my car over a tenth of a second!

[Cornercarver82]

Tact 8speed use tact

[l3it3r]

in other news, what's her-ass's ass is assmassing....

[Cornercarver82]

mmmmmmhmmmmm

[8speed]

And I don't mean to sound rude, but I think you guys don't really know anything about my car. It was built by Skunk/TRD racing with the help from Yamaha: This is not your Grandfathers lexus by any means:thumbsdow

The all-new 2008 Lexus IS F high-performance sedan is the first Lexus to wear the brand’s ‘F’ marquee, and is the fastest Lexus production car ever built. Based on the robust IS sport sedan platform, the IS F delivers 416hp from a specially engineered 5.0 liter V8 engine giving it the power to accelerate to 60mph in just 4.6 sec. and hit a top speed of 170 mph. This potent all-aluminum V8 engine features a dual air intake system, high-flow cylinder heads with titanium valves designed by Yamaha, VVT with intelligence, and an electrically controlled intake cam. You’ll love the loud, throaty roar when you mash your foot on the throttle and get kicked back into your seat.



The engine is mated to the world’s first eight-speed Sport Direct-Shift automatic transmission with a quick and direct special lock up clutch, and a control system that enables ultra-quick manual up-shifts (0.1 sec.), and blips the throttle for precision down-shifts. You can shift manually using either the console shifter or steering-wheel-mounted paddle shifters when driving in either Drive mode (D) or Manual mode (M).

[l3it3r]

offtopic

[8speed]

Good one!

http://91.121.132.199/gifs/9982.gif

[l3it3r]

Good one!

http://91.121.132.199/gifs/9982.gif

Don't even TRY to get into a last word battle with me. Just get back on topic. :thumb:

[Cornercarver82]

Wow all that huh? well since it's my thread I think I'll spout off some interesting info. Good research though by the way. My 1982 Chevy Camaro Z-28 is first of it's kind sporting the unequal length 4 link torque arm rear which puts an astounding 85% of the cars weight on the rear tires under hard acceleration. In front of that torque arm is a Muncie/Borg Warner 4 speed manual trans featuring the classic dog ring synchros making it one of the toughest transmissions ever concienved. The 385 Cubic in small block cranks out a whopping 534hp and a tire frying 520 lb ft of torque giving a 0-60 recorded time of 3.6sec and a very traction limited best 1/4 mile time of 12.11@ 132mph. This is far from your average 305 powered teenagers camaro

[Cornercarver82]

Unfortunatly it currently runs out of gear at about 145-150

[l3it3r]

LOL, I like the PR flair.

[Cornercarver82]

Eh just a few little fun facts and the torque is tire frying it was an expensive summer

[8speed]

Don't even TRY to get into a last word battle with me. Just get back on topic. :thumb:

http://91.121.132.199/gifs/10448.gif

[l3it3r]

http://91.121.132.199/gifs/10448.gif

Come back in 7 days.

[Cornercarver82]

LMAO!!!!!! Didnt see that one commin

[Yuji]

thank you leiter.....to see those animations every time he posted something was getting old.

[WildHareMS]

........I was running empty trunk, 94ish octane in san diego before I came out to Virginia.

Ummmm I realize I won't get the answer just yet...lol...since I have to wait a week. But even I can't HONESTLY figure octane ratings for CA. I worked there for several years as a technician, 3-4 of it in the performance industry. Top fuel in that state at a pump is 91oct. Once you add in whatever sh*t you want, all bets are off. Not to mention...I'm betting it would take at least a full tank for the computer in that car to pick up the difference for any real performance gain(of a whopping 1-6 crank hp). .........

[Cornercarver82]

Im pretty sure we all are comming to the conclusion that he is full of stinky poopy

[AWD ATTK]

What was the deal with him listing the car specs, copy/pasted directly from some info website? Did he think we DIDN'T know WTF an (almighty) ISF was? The ISF was never the problem.

Yeah, it's a great grand touring, luxury performance car to rival M3's, congrats. Now stop acting like a douch, oh wait he can't read this. :dunno:

[Brice63]

damn i'm too slow to post before the thread gets dramatic
maybe i'll fix this....

Dude that car is gonna be sick with the new motor and that is Way too fast lol
i love the sound of the big ballsy V8's even though i've only had imports my bud's 350 late models race car sounds so amazing
can't wait to see the car progress
:thumb:
:D

[Crash-Override]

Awesome, I almost bought an early GSX about a week ago but someone else beat me to it. They sure are fun!!

Edit: I meant to "quote" your getting the Laser Camaro, that way this post makes sense and IS on topic...LOL

Edit 2: LOL at the "stinky poopy" comment but I do agree!

[Cornercarver82]

Well hopefully theres a place that sell resto parts like oh say floor pans, the poor laser has a stop sign for a floor board

[hyprspec]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkFKTQP7Eeo

[Crash-Override]

Well hopefully theres a place that sell resto parts like oh say floor pans, the poor laser has a stop sign for a floor board

Damn, why use a stop sign?? Still I dont know of anyone that sells resto parts for these yet, however I am happy to hit a salvage yard here in the south and cut one out for you. I know thats not the best way to go, but its better than a damn road sign..lol

[Cornercarver82]

Eh we're just gonna pass on it the kids wants too much for it especially having a street sign as a floor board

[Crash-Override]

Figures, I guess they figure some idiot will buy it.

[Cornercarver82]

Prolly

[123456]

thank you leiter.....to see those animations every time he posted something was getting old.
Quit trying to kiss his ass dude.
He didnt ban him because of a damn "animation".
He did it because of what it was in it. And for trying to outpower an Admin. Which we all know we can out power leiter. Hes such a baby... Selling his damn turbo Dodge. You fool. It was a fuckin 4 door, perfect for the wife and kids.
I wouldnt say that was ban worthy, but fuck. Whatever.

[hyprspec]

Quit trying to kiss his ass dude.
He didnt ban him because of a damn "animation".
He did it because of what it was in it. And for trying to outpower an Admin. Which we all know we can out power leiter. Hes such a baby... Selling his damn turbo Dodge. You fool. It was a fuckin 4 door, perfect for the wife and kids.
I wouldnt say that was ban worthy, but fuck. Whatever.

Shame when you have to try to make noise just to be heard.

[Zeebrax]

Im glad he was banned how dare he go off topic and argue on such an important thread where my boy is tryin to show us his bowtie. Now I only need to work on mine to be like the white camaro

[DirtyE30]

Shame when you have to try to make noise just to be heard.

Well played, sir. Well played.

[WildHareMS]

So ANYWAYS!!! LMAO Back on topic here....that engine and trans combo look top notch!!! What'd that thing put out for numbers on that dyno?

[123456]

Shame when you have to try to make noise just to be heard.
And you are?

[l3it3r]

in Mischief.

[l3it3r]

nik, numbers, 123456, or whatever the fuck your name is, if you don't like being here, leave. Your posts are shit lately..

[Cornercarver82]

Wildhare my big block is crankin out a measily 765ish hp and 720lb ft of torque. The trans is a Jerico 6 speed +1 (second overdrive) in a modded T-56 case. So I set my goal at a sustainable 200+mph and I have met that goal :)

[123456]

Edit: Nvm. PM will be sent.

[Cornercarver82]

and FYI to all 8speed was given his vacation for hijackin my thread and most of all being a dousche to everyone

[Brice63]

Wildhare my big block is crankin out a measily 765ish hp and 720lb ft of torque. The trans is a Jerico 6 speed +1 (second overdrive) in a modded T-56 case. So I set my goal at a sustainable 200+mph and I have met that goal :)

what are you hitting 200mph in? is that like a half mile drag? or a top speed run?

[Zeebrax]

and FYI to all 8speed was given his vacation for hijackin my thread and most of all being a dousche to everyone

Goooood

Now I have a question for u YOUR CAR CAN HIT 200???
and I need to do some thing to my car, its bone stock i wanna get complete exhaust done, new wheels (maybe original cragers?) and anything else. What do you suggest?

O and the reason I havent done anything yet is I have to get through my dad its still under his name sadely, cause I cant remember when it was the last time he drove it.

[DirtyE30]

Wildhare my big block is crankin out a measily 765ish hp and 720lb ft of torque. The trans is a Jerico 6 speed +1 (second overdrive) in a modded T-56 case. So I set my goal at a sustainable 200+mph and I have met that goal :)

Balderdash. Only an IS-F, with a Yamaha built engine, can do that.

[Cornercarver82]

Zeebrax-Headers and a nice mandrel bent exhaust system will do some good justice to it and free up a bit more power. Next I'd get a nice aluminum intake and a better carb, the quadrajet is good for puttering around but if you want to make that 6.6 scream a 750 Holly or Edelbrock will make you want to live in your T/A

Brice63- That is the projected top end for the new setup I have for my 82 Z-28. Read previous posts

[Zeebrax]

Zeebrax-Headers and a nice mandrel bent exhaust system will do some good justice to it and free up a bit more power. Next I'd get a nice aluminum intake and a better carb, the quadrajet is good for puttering around but if you want to make that 6.6 scream a 750 Holly or Edelbrock will make you want to live in your T/A

Brice63- That is the projected top end for the new setup I have for my 82 Z-28. Read previous posts

O I have a edelbrock intake manifold but idk how after market it is. But yea like I said I need to persuade my dad to do this and hes sooo stubborn about it.

[123456]

Woah, just read all of 8Speeds posts... What a fuckin tool.
Omni runs low 13s... Ill race your uber IS-F. You should win. Deal?

[l3it3r]

^Thank you! I thought you were just being a tool...

[Cornercarver82]

Careful now Nik it has 4 exhaust pipes

[l3it3r]

lol.. are they really fake?

Anyway.. the real reason I banned him for 7 days (listen up 8speed) is that he attacks everyone on this forum and then either posts an animated gif from giftube.com or talks shit about their car and then promptly compares it to his IS-F. The thread could have been originally about McDonalds french fries vs Chik-fil-A's waffle fries, but his argument would have been a gif about princess diana falling over, or that his IS-F's exhaust temps are twice that of Chik-fil-a's oil fryers
That and he challenged me to a last word match... listen guys, you will always lose that game with me on this site..

[hyprspec]

And you are?

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3320/batmandx6.jpg


Wait, im sorry - completely unrelated to this thread.

[Crash-Override]

So with the 6spd that should put you at a little over 600 hp to the wheels I am guessing. I dont know how parasitic those trannys are.

Still gonna be super bad! I want a ride in this for sure!

[l3it3r]

Sure to be a MEAN car!

[WildHareMS]

Wildhare my big block is crankin out a measily 765ish hp and 720lb ft of torque. The trans is a Jerico 6 speed +1 (second overdrive) in a modded T-56 case. So I set my goal at a sustainable 200+mph and I have met that goal :)

Holy smokes Batman!! [ohmy] So about 750+hp???? Ummm yeah, I won't ever get in the way of that car! lol

Happen to know the top two gear ratios on the trans, and what your motor wraps out to RPM wise?


I'm realllllly curious now! lol Sounds like one hell of a monster!!

[123456]

8speed's Lexus..... Meet Nik's Ferrari.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1935/lolololvh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/lolololvh3.jpg/1/w500.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img88/lolololvh3.jpg/1/)

Count my pipes bro... Ya aint got nothin on me.

[123456]

ok... No more...
Z28 looks sick!

[Zeebrax]

wow best ride thread everrrrrrr

[l3it3r]

I'm looking for a way for forum members to vote posts 'offtopic'

[Zeebrax]

that would be funy

[123456]

It gets hard to keep it in the Never Ending Thread... Real hard.
I try, but damnit... I fail. lol

[Zeebrax]

It gets hard to keep it in the Never Ending Thread... Real hard.
I try, but damnit... I fail. lol

Thats what she said

[Cornercarver82]

Well the tranny is a 6 speed +1 so it actually has a 2nd overdrive, I've damn near gone broke on this car as it in the last one I will ever build. Manual transmission lose only about 5&#37; power roughly compared to the 15-20% of an automatic. See with an automatic your spinning fluid around creating pressure and clutch pack lock up. A manual is bearings and gears. The Lingenfelter 540 redlines safely at 8,000. Mark (tech that helped with build) said I can push it to about 8500 or 9,000 but I will be risking the engine turning into a huge grenade. I'm not sure what the ratio's are for the trans I know 5th is 1:1, I believe 6th is 1:1.5 and 7th is 1:2 but dont quote me on that. I'm hoping to have the swap done before it gets nice out, I still need alot of parts such as a torque arm relocating cross member, and hood clearance is of course an issue, I'm hoping a 2" cowl hood or maybe a big block vette style hood will give me the clearance I need. I will most definitly keep everyone posted. I am extremely excited about this build. A street car with nearly 800 crank hp dont see that everyday, well unless you have shit piles of money

[1faSStchevy]

800hp is alot and thats going to be hard to keep on the road. Look into minitubbing the back to fit some bigger tires and also the rearend. I dont know what size you have but if you plan on romping this thing alot, you will, a GM 12bolt is a must. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont go with the F-bomb 9". That motor should never see over 6000 RPM. Good luck with everything and who knows, maybe we'll see you stomping the shit out of a Lambo, Mercedes and an NSX.

[Cornercarver82]

I already have a disc break 12 bolt for it(I love e-bay) and I also have the mini tubs but alas I have just finished moving and it's cold as hell so for now the build is on stand by. The 540 is a destroked 572 that and the full roller valve train get me the high redline. I have also picked up Amsoil as a sponsor for the car, nothing like huge dollars or anything just a nice price break on all their stuff, which I use their synthetic gear oil now as it is.

[1faSStchevy]

Dang boy you are on top of things. I will soon be moving too and then my project will be pulled in and knocked out. A roller motor is great but your peak power and torque will still be in the 5500-6000 range. Well, depends on the build. Got a dyno sheet?

[Cornercarver82]

Not yet I'll get those when I get back to Michigan with my truck to take delivery of the engine and trans. And your right power does peak at 6200, but for an open road race car that should do just fine

[atomicgoofball]

LOL! omg, i just read thru every page of this thread and wtf did i miss!???

Camaro, i gotta tell you....u have probably the freshest camaro of that generation i have ever seen! PROPS!! im not normally a camaro person but urs def impresses me and makes me think twice!


off topic- i gotta say, i love all u guys! how yall stood up for camaro and seriously made me LOL against 8speeeeeD (his user name looks like a penis)

[AWD ATTK]

LOL! omg, i just read thru every page of this thread and wtf did i miss!???

.........t 8speeeeeD (his user name looks like a penis)

:ROFL:

[l3it3r]

LOL Goof you're the man.. only someone as genius as you would notice his user name looks like a cock.

[BigBowTie]

off topic- i gotta say, i love all u guys! how yall stood up for camaro and seriously made me LOL against 8speeeeeD (his user name looks like a penis)

thats priceless!! lol.

[1faSStchevy]

Camaro was this your first thread? This one should go down in the books, epic!

[John Perdue]

Tose a 4 link suspension on there and you are golden

[WildHareMS]

Manual transmission lose only about 5% power roughly compared to the 15-20% of an automatic.

I hope you're right, but I don't think so... I've done a lot of Dyno runs before and have seen quite a bit more than 5% loss from a rear wheel drive manual trans. Now some of those have been transaxles in Mid or rear engines also, and some have had just HUGE CV shafts off of them. I would honestly say you may seem more of a 10-12% drop from crank to the rear wheels. It may seem like a lot but you've still got quite a bit of rotational mass to move.

Good god I can't wait to see and hear that thing run! I would love to see it tear down the 1320 in person sometime.

[Cornercarver82]

Thats why my wife is doin photography :D everyone will, as well as a hot lap at Watkins Glen road course

[WildHareMS]

LOL F that! When you're at a track like that there had better be an open invite to at least come and watch in person. LOL Nothing against your wife or her photography/videography skills....I just love being at the track!

[Crash-Override]

Goof = Awesome!!

Camaro -- I did 17&#37; power loss when I did my math as thats what I was told when my supra was a 6spd before the TH400 went in. I dont know how correct that is but hey the less you lose the more you put down!

Also cant wait for the vid!!

[WildHareMS]

Goof = Awesome!!

Camaro -- I did 17% power loss when I did my math as thats what I was told when my supra was a 6spd before the TH400 went in. I dont know how correct that is but hey the less you lose the more you put down!

Also cant wait for the vid!!


Even 17% is better than some of what I've seen on Dynos. lol I've watched 25-28% loss on some set-ups, but that's with a 5spd Mendeola, and gigantic CV's and some serious tires. At least that sandrail was putting out about 625hp (crank) so at about 1800-1900lbs it still hauled serious ass with the loss.

[Slaby]

For the record, Automatics don't really have any more power drain than manuals. I mean, technically they do but it won't show up on dynos because the torque converter uses the stator to multiply torque. When you stomp the gas pedal and the engine starts spinning faster than the transmission input shaft at first, that fluid movement locks the stator in place because it's on a one-way bearing and the way the stator reflects the fluid at a greater angle into the fins of the turbine and it multiplies torque. More torque is multiplied at lower engine speeds just based on physics bu it more than makes up for the power lost through the fluid drivetrain. A lot of the time when sports cars come with autos they are just tuned down 5-20 hp/tq because the autos aren't built as tough as the manuals.

The reason manuals will usually pull their automatic twins is because the manuals nearly always have a shorter axle ratio, so they multiply more torque at the differential. But if you have 2 cars, identical setup and engine, but one is a manual and one is an auto, they will run damn near exactly the same if they have the same gear ratios. They auto may actually pull on the manual a bit in the quarter mile.

Of course, lock-up converters lose that torque multiplication with they are locked, but they unlock instantly as soon as you stomp on the gas so it really makes no difference.

Not obviously all transmissions are different and some autos will sap more power than others. The same can be said for manuals. But normally if you have the same car and engine with just different transmissions, the power difference on the dyno will come from the difference in gear ratios rather than the power loss in the drivetrain itself.

[Crash-Override]

Thanks Slaby, thats great info!!

I know on my Supra when I went TH400 I lost about 75hp to the wheels, however I was able to really throw the boost at her and not worry about anything so with that I actually picked up about 250hp..lol

That was a built TH400 with the strongest compents I could get at the time.

[Cornercarver82]

Good point Slaby however I disagree to an extent. Auto's do have a slightly higher &#37; of power loss than manuals SAE proven. The biggest "performance" difference is the fluid in the auto as opposed to a manual which is more or less a direct link front to rear. By a law of physics is it not harder to spin fluid than to turn a wheel or gear? Your comparing Hydraulic vs mechanical properties.


By the way hows the pony comming along?

[Breech]

i have kind of a side question.... how long have you been building project cars? you seem to know so much and are very organized with this project build you have here, which if i may say is well on is way to being a beast of a car.

[Cornercarver82]

I started spinning wrenches when I was about 12, my first ride (when I was 12) 1975 Dodge Powerwagon 3/4ton 4X4 440ci 4bbl 4speed

[Cornercarver82]

So today I get a phone call from Mark Corano (Tech that helped with 540 BBC). After he ensured I knew it was him there was a long pause. "Bad news man," What I asked? Is my engine ok? No it's not he replied. My face felt hot and my gut dropped through my ass. I asked what happened. He tells me it was getting it's final tuning and prep for transportation, when the big man b ehind the PC accidentally bumped the throttle pad and maxed her out to about 9500 rpm. As he was backing it down it shoved the number 2 rod through the side of the block. Big shiny retardedly high powered big block=toast. And then he tells me they arent covering it. Any ideas on what I can do? I have almost 20K into this motor alone. My savings account is a joke now because of this.

[1faSStchevy]

that SUCKS!!!!!!! It wasnt your mistake that cost the engine to blow. They should stand behind it. The shop should have insurance for things like this.

[Cornercarver82]

I thought so too I've been like extremely upset all day and now the wife knows and she's been cryin, this is fuckin bullshit

[Crash-Override]

Damn that sucks!

I would look into all the paperwork you have from when you shelled out the money. If nothing there then look into your states "buyer protection laws" or whatever they are called there. If you are having trouble there then get a lawyer.

I had a friend that this happened too, it was a shop building him a motor and then he would do cash + core swap. Well they did this and he already had about 10k in cash to them so he looked through his paperwork and it only said the shop would not be responsible for damage AFTER the install so he called a lawyer, lawyer called (or got in touch with them somehow) and about 2 weeks later he had his motor installed and its still going strong.

I hope this works out for sure. Also have several Lawyers in the family now so I am happy to ask around and see what they think if you need. Just let me know!

[l3it3r]

Thanks Slaby, thats great info!!

I know on my Supra when I went TH400 I lost about 75hp to the wheels, however I was able to really throw the boost at her and not worry about anything so with that I actually picked up about 250hp..lol

That was a built TH400 with the strongest compents I could get at the time.

My buddy was tossing about 1500HP at his TH400 with no issues. :thumb:

[l3it3r]

WHOA!! dude, BBB can do wonders in cases like this... also, a $50-100 consult fee with a lawyer might be worth it

[Shift_Destroy]

So today I get a phone call from Mark Corano (Tech that helped with 540 BBC). After he ensured I knew it was him there was a long pause. "Bad news man," What I asked? Is my engine ok? No it's not he replied. My face felt hot and my gut dropped through my ass. I asked what happened. He tells me it was getting it's final tuning and prep for transportation, when the big man b ehind the PC accidentally bumped the throttle pad and maxed her out to about 9500 rpm. As he was backing it down it shoved the number 2 rod through the side of the block. Big shiny retardedly high powered big block=toast. And then he tells me they arent covering it. Any ideas on what I can do? I have almost 20K into this motor alone. My savings account is a joke now because of this.
Wow, I would contact a lawyer and the better business bureau asap. They can't just break something that is yours and not pay for it, that's complete and utter bullshit. They are completely responsible to reimburse you 100&#37; unless you stupidly signed some waiver that said "if we break yo shit we aint payin fo it"

[WildHareMS]

If you have not taken possession of the goods, then they are not yours. If you signed any sort of agreement for a specific engine to be built and delivered they have to suck it up and use their insurance, that's why they have it. And if they don't have insurance to cover it then you need to get in touch with a laywer ASAP. The failure was not your fault, and You are in no way liable for them blowing the engine.

[Crash-Override]

I talked to my friend that had the issue with his and he said he actually used the State District Attorney or something like that. I am pretty sure that was it, I am somewhat drunk.

l3it3r -- I wasnt pushing that much but was in the 4 digits at the wheels on C16. I love the TH400!! I had a gear vendors unit in mine to drive it more than just the track too.

[Cornercarver82]

Thanks guys I am going over there tomarrow and if I dont get the answer I want then I'm gettin a lawyer

[1faSStchevy]

Best of luck

[Cornercarver82]

I got a full refund of all money I gave them to set it up THANK GOD

[Crash-Override]

Sweet!!

So whats next? I doubt that you will be going back to them..

[WildHareMS]

I got a full refund of all money I gave them to set it up THANK GOD

Congratulations!! I knew it would probably work out, just glad it didn't take much time at all. Whew

Sooo...maybe a World Products BB?? I'm assuming they still make a damned good product. lol They're a lil heafty in price, or at least used to be...but good.

[1faSStchevy]

Good news to hear. They stood behind what they did and thats good business.

[Slaby]

Good point Slaby however I disagree to an extent. Auto's do have a slightly higher &#37; of power loss than manuals SAE proven. The biggest "performance" difference is the fluid in the auto as opposed to a manual which is more or less a direct link front to rear. By a law of physics is it not harder to spin fluid than to turn a wheel or gear? Your comparing Hydraulic vs mechanical properties.


By the way hows the pony comming along?



You are absolutely right. It is more difficult to transfer torque through fluid than it is a direct connection. Autos do sap power more so than manuals. But what I emant was that Autos have a torque converter (obviously) and the way they are built they actually multiply torque from the crankshaft before it gets to the tranny when you hit the gas. A lot of the time it makes up for it. Autos almost always show a power loss compared to manuals but it's normally because of the gear ratios. Taller gears are exagurated (sp?) in autos as well because of the difference in engine rpms and tranny rpms. You know how when you step on the gas in an auto it revs a bit because the fins of the pump of the torque converter are attached to the housing, so they spin at engine speed. The fluid movement takes some time to transfer off the stator and spin the turbine, which is what turns the transmission input shaft. So even with the same gears the manual has an advantage slightly.

For example: Let's say your car makes 300 lbft of torque at 4000 rpms. Lets say you have a 5 speed manual and a 5 speed auto, exact same gear ratios and axle ratio. the 5 speed at 4000 rpms in second gear is about 40 mph. The auto with a 1200 stall at WOT may only be going 35 mph when it hits it's peak tq because the transmission isn't spinning the same speed as the engine yet. This is exagurated even more with high stall converters, of course people still use then because they allow you to launch autos at optimum power and they just adjust gear ratios to make up for it. Also, autos can shift faster than people driving manuals.

About the TH400, GREAT transmission, but don't overlook TH350s because they can be built tough as nails and are known to sap less hp than the TH400s.


I don't want people to think I sound full of myself or anything or that i'm trying to argue. I just like to pass on info to give everyone a better understanding of how things work so you all can build better cars :) I used to be a mechanic so I can't help it.



Oh, and the Pony is doing well. Just ran a 13.30 at 105.71 last Sunday at Fayetteville Dragway. Not bad for just having an intake, exhaust, and a tune. The tune cut almost 2 tenths off my ET from a 13.48 at 104.90. Still have my factory H-pipe with cats though, gotta change that sometime soon.

[Cornercarver82]

Wow nice numbers and Slaby's absolutly right the TH350 is a very forgiving trans, I ran one out of fluid once, filled it back u[ and it was fine. The TH400's only down fall is..it's a BIG trans

[DirtyE30]

Oh, and the Pony is doing well. Just ran a 13.30 at 105.71 last Sunday at Fayetteville Dragway. Not bad for just having an intake, exhaust, and a tune. The tune cut almost 2 tenths off my ET from a 13.48 at 104.90. Still have my factory H-pipe with cats though, gotta change that sometime soon.

From what I have heard, those modular motors really come to life after a set of cams.:thumb:

[Cornercarver82]

Yes they do a good fuel rail kit doesnt hurt either

[Cornercarver82]

So I'm thinking of running a new set of aluminum heads probably 52cc chambers AFR's, can you say SUPER HIGH COMPRESSION. She's not very pump gas friendly as it is now but premium with about a quart of nitro and she's pretty happy

[Cornercarver82]

Ok I decided to bump my thread and to inform I'm thinkin of starting a new motor build and using a 74 400 small block from a Chevelle.

[l3it3r]

TH400 saps HP, but when you're running nearly 2000 HP, that doesn't matter much ;)

[Cornercarver82]

That was a bit random. I'm looking at 550ish hp on pump gas

[l3it3r]

I only mentioned the TH400 earlier because of high HP stuff... I forget the real reason lol

[Cornercarver82]

550+hp 8k redline and a 3.08:1 rear gear with and overdrive trans=200+mph hopefully:dancingna

[Cornercarver82]

Well I have decided on a new engine for the Z. I wont be doing too much tooling on this one other than an oil pan for clearance and possably an intake if the hood I want isnt tall enough. I will be going with a World Performance(aka Merlin) 454 Small Block. They produce (on the low side) 600+ hp and 575+tq and if need be a Big Block Corvette style hood. Heres a few pics of the plan:dancingna

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/454.jpg

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/Hood.jpg

[1faSStchevy]

Mmmmm Dominator carb

Great choice!!

[Cornercarver82]

Backing it all up with a Centerforce Gold Series Dual Friction Clutch and a Richmond TKO 6 speed

[Cornercarver82]

I also want to have the original seats reupolstered any ideas on a good place to ship them too? I'm not worried about price, she's milked me to the point I wont sell it so I'll keep going with her. So idea's?

[1faSStchevy]

Katskinz perhaps? Some leather ,suede and extra padding where you need it.

[Cornercarver82]

Nah not lookin for an aftermarket kit I want them restored. Basically new foam and new leather stitched the way it was in 1982. I love the look and the feel of the original seats.

[1faSStchevy]

http://www.classicindustries.com/

[Cornercarver82]

Nothin for an 82 Z-28 but a 302 badge which would be completely poser

[Brice63]

sick engine man that thing is HUGE
i'm no fan of that hood though
it would look sick if you just cut a round hole in the one you got though
my opinion though

[Cornercarver82]

Alot of people arent fans of the stinger hood but when mine is painted the way I want it'll be sick you'll see

[Brice63]

yeah thats true there is allot of room to make it look better from the pic you posted lol
that teal is awful

[Cornercarver82]

lol yeah I'm not a fan of the aqua teal paint either I'm thinking overall black like the rest of my car then do the spear and the scoop in a gunmetal, then continue the 1 solid gunmetal strip down the hatch like the old Baldwin Motion Vette's Chevelle's and Camaro's

[Cornercarver82]

Well tonight I decided it's time to start prepping the Z-28 for duty again, the warm stuff is heading our way so; new alternator, fresh coolant, fresh plugs & wires, fresh cap rotor super coil, and got rid of the ugly ass yellow plastic silver painted coolant reservoir & washer jug.

[Zeebrax]

Good so you can take a trip to MD haha

[Cornercarver82]

Thinkin about it

[Cornercarver82]

She's 100&#37; back on the road and even faster than last year, video's to follow

[Pulse]

hurry up with the vids!

[Cornercarver82]

Well last night the Z trashed her distributor. So me being me I picked up an MSD Street Fire HEI billet unit and stuck it in last night, then today ditched the old Accel wires and grabbed a set of the 8.5mm Super Conductor wires, now the timing isnt quite perfect yet but HOLY SH**. I almost broke my neck when I opened the 4 barrels up, will definitly have a vid up tomarrow.

[AWD ATTK]

*staying tuned

[Dano]

Videos please. :)

[Zeebrax]

O my jesus. I might have to take a trip upstate to finally meet this beast.

[Cornercarver82]

Well the wife will be posting 2 vids up tomarrow, 1 is a couple donuts, I was pretty aggressive with the skinny pedal on them, the second was a night run in 4th gear, 55-?? my speedo stops at 85

[Zeebrax]

O dam I thought I was bad. Mines stops at 100.

[Brice63]

mine stops at 160 ... >.<

[Cornercarver82]

My car sure as hell tops out higher than 85 though lol

[bowtiegirl08]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/happybunny06/th_002.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/happybunny06/?action=view&current=002.flv)

[MDe36]

Nice. If only i had a limited slip...Curse you open diff

[bowtiegirl08]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/happybunny06/th_003-2.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/happybunny06/?action=view&current=003-2.flv)

[Cornercarver82]

Mines not a limited slip, it's a locker and I curse it. It's super hard to drift

[Dano]

Sweet man, nice to see you have it out. I'm hoping to start working on my project soon and get it drivable by next month but we'll see what happens.

[Cornercarver82]

Sweet post pics of the build. The Z is suffering from spark plugs breaking down, hesitant acceleration unless your all the way in it :( oh well time for new plugs

[Dano]

Atleast it's a cheap and easy fix. I'll post more pictures once I start. :) Gonna get some KYBs in the next few weeks hopefully.

[Cornercarver82]

Nice buford but uuuuuh whats with the DUB license plate????

[bowtiegirl08]

here is a video of us just driving around. Turnded out pretty well i think, sorry it does shake alot thought, but its really hard to sit still in the camaro lol

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/happybunny06/th_016.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/happybunny06/?action=view&current=016.flv)

[bowtiegirl08]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/happybunny06/th_018.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/happybunny06/?action=view&current=018.flv)

This video is pretty sweet. He started less then a 1/4 of a mile away from where i was standig. the only real downfall for this video is i couldn't turn fast enough when he came flying by me

[Cornercarver82]

Thats was one hell of a run :D

[Dano]

MS Paint ftw! :p I actually considered putting daytons on it but there is a huge issue of traction..

That and I'm not mexican enough...


and good to see someone else rockin the dice. :)

[AWD ATTK]

i <3 flybys

[Zeebrax]

Woh. She sounds mean as well.

[Linken]

i <3 flybys


Woh. She sounds mean as well.

+1

[Cornercarver82]

It really needs an overdrive.

[Cornercarver82]

Ok well the build saga continues as I think my trusty 4 speed isnt so trusty anymore and is comming out of the car tonight. So who's got some good transmission ideas, must be a manual of course.

[Cornercarver82]

Tranny is good but my throw out bearing and fork are trashed....

[Cornercarver82]

SHE'S ALIVE, THE BEAST IS ALIVE!!!!

New cam,Intake Manifold, can Carb

New video, first start

http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/th_VIDEO0012.jpg (http://s427.photobucket.com/albums/pp356/Silverado2500HD/?action=view&current=VIDEO0012.mp4)